Adjustable shocks...

[Purple Venom]

Don't know where this will go, but check this out - http://www.ffcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271077

Seems like a good deal assuming it's Koni shocks he's offering. :rolleyes:

[mike w]

Don't know where this will go, but check this out - http://www.ffcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271077

Seems like a good deal assuming it's Koni shocks he's offering. :rolleyes:

Think I touched on this topic prior, You would be money ahead dealing with a company that makes know Quality shocks that are externally adjustable. Here is one http://www.strangeengineering.net/ And if you ever have a problem with 1 they can be rebuilt. But if your trying to save a buck try hoods ( you get what you pay for ) 200.00 for a set of 4 they can't be much. They also have alot of goodies for your 8.8 rear axles

[TOM KEISER]

Mark is a "known quality" guy. No worries in dealing with him or any product he sells. He's not offering shocks but rather a way to make existing Koni's externally adjustable for rebound and compression.

[Purple Venom]

Yeah, kind of what I'm thinking Mike, you get what you pay for, which is why I wonder if they are Koni's or not. I've looked at the one's on Strange Engineering's website, just never pulled the trigger. The reason I'm looking at adjustable one's is to the point of having a different setup for the track than the street. Right now, the shocks are adjusted for ride comfort on the street. If I had something externally adjustable, I could easily change them at the track.

Having said that, I don't necessarily want to spend a lot of time at the track adjusting shocks. I'm thinking if the rebound and or stiffness were adjusted, I could get better traction than I'm getting allowing me to get through the turns better.

EDIT ADD: Just read your post Tom. Wondering how you could do that? Any clue?

[TOM KEISER]

Just read your post Tom. Wondering how you could do that? Any clue?

No clue at all but I can't wait to hear the details. I would think that it would require sending your set of shocks to Mark either as cores or to be retrofitted with the adjustable valving and returned. I doubt that it would involve external reservoirs as that would get way more expensive. I'll be watching that post with interest even though I don't run Koni's.

[STL Mark]

200 bills seems like a good deal.

In this link, you'll find info on the upgraded SPF shocks, some good tech info, and for 400 additional bucks - remote adjustments with 18 settings.

http://performanceunlimited.com/cobravalley_suspension/shocksprings.html

[TOM KEISER]

Thanks Mark! There you go, Mark Reynolds (Breeze) has found a place to get Koni compatible shock ends with dual knob adjustment. Very cool and priced right.

[Kerry & Kathy]

$200 a set for external adjustments is a steal...

I have a set of Koni's for the car with a second spare set I would upgrade if Mark can make this happen.

Kerry

[Purple Venom]

Curious why you need 18 adjustment points. I mean, it's too hard or too soft and it's only adjusting the rebound, right?

[STL Mark]

Curious why you need 18 adjustment points. I mean, it's too hard or too soft and it's only adjusting the rebound, right?

I think it has to do with the weight of the car, the sway bar, and the weight distribution. Adjustments for rebound AND compression.

[Purple Venom]

You have GOT to go read how you can get $200 adjustable shocks. If you can't, text below:

Original post - "If there were a way to upgrade a full set of new FFR Koni Coil Over Shocks from 3-position rebound adjustable only where you have to remove and disassemble the shock to make the adjustment, to an externally adjustable shock with 18 positions of simultaneous compression AND rebound adjustment with the shocks on the car, for a net total cost of under $200 for a set of 4 shocks, would anyone be interested? "

His answer to questions:
"Sell your new or nearly new FFR Koni's in the parts for sale section. A new set should easily bring about $850. Choose your spring rate and order front and rear externally adjustable shock kits from Breeze and install!

Here is the budget: Sell Koni's ($850.00) Buyer pays shipping
Breeze Front Kit $495.00
Breeze Rear Kit $495.00
shipping (estimated) $35.00
Net cost $175.00

Here is our press release link from the Breeze homepage:
http://www.breezeautomotive.com/pres...hp?press_id=20

This is the link to our Shocks section of the website:
http://www.breezeautomotive.com/home.php?cat_id=54

If you don't have Koni's to sell, you can still get the externally single adjustable coil overs for under $1K plus shipping!

If you're going AO (all-out) with your car we also have double adjustable version which allow the compression and rebound to be adjusted separately for $645/pair.

We don't have the application figured out for IRS - two reasons are availability of 750lb springs and we don't have an IRS car to test fit on. We are told however the front and rear Koni's are the same dimensions so our fronts may fit if you want to provide some 2.5" ID 750lb or so springs and do some R&D work, and we can sell less springs.

Notes: Tubular FLCA's required, rears won't clear the chassis on Mk 1 and 2 but could be fitted if you are willing to fabricate an upper mount that replicates the lower mounting hole on a Mk3 -up.

Mark D: There are 18 positioins of adjustment which means they can be adjusted from softer to harder than the Koni's."

Sorry, but that was a dumb response from an advertiser on the forum. No one can complain about it because you get banned from the site. Well, luckily, you can't here :D

[STL Mark]

You have GOT to go read how you can get $200 adjustable shocks.

I didn't know if you were talking to me, but the unit I'm interested is 1098 for 4 shocks and springs of my choosing - then add 400 to add dual adjustments for the entire set. So, 1500 bucks for new shocks with new springs and dual adjustments.

If you weren't talking to me - then carry on.:cool:

[Purple Venom]

Nope, just in general. I think I'll sell my car, take the money and buy me a new car. :rolleyes: Just didn't make sense to me.

[Richgrsc]

This turned out to be a very poor marketing gimmick by Breeze. His trick was you sell your old Koni's for $850 and buy his new adjustable one for $1050. Turned out to be BS, and I really liked his products. :(

whoops---------didnt read far enough

[mike w]

I didn't know if you were talking to me, but the unit I'm interested is 1098 for 4 shocks and springs of my choosing - then add 400 to add dual adjustments for the entire set. So, 1500 bucks for new shocks with new springs and dual adjustments.

If you weren't talking to me - then carry on.:cool:

Give up on his line of b.s. take a look at what Strange Engineering has. Adjustments both on bottom, they have been around a long time made in the usa ( koni is not only have warehouses in the u.s.a. ) and if you ever have a problem or want them tested or freshened up your down max 2 weeks. I don't know squat but I do know what they sell is not junk - never any recalls for breaking like some that where used on fact five cars, and they have a very knowledgable woman by the name of tracey, shes kind of a fixture there and very smart cookie. If you guys still like to go throught the bull s#@t of taking them off to adjust have at it and learn to love them. They also have many other goodies. download their catalog.

http://www.strangeengineering.net/

[STL Mark]

Don't quote me. I'm not buying the shocks from Breeze. I have my own source.
What a confusing thread.

[Purple Venom]

Well, to get off the $200 shock upgrade (b.s.), let's shove this toward the adjustments and why. When you adjust the collar for the springs, you are adjusting what? Ride height? What else? What are the other two adjustments, rebound and.....(I can't remember)? When/why would you adjust the collar on the springs as opposed to the adjustment screws? I'm really not looking to replace mine, just saw this and the price was right :rolleyes: I thought it would be a good deal. Since it's not, I'm ok with what I have. Thanks for the suggestion Mike, I bought my upper adjustable control arms from them (which are still on the shelf).

[Richgrsc]

Tim, your right, adjusting the spring collar only changes the ride height. The adjustments on the shocks are; compression, controls the dampening effect of the shock when it is being compressed, ; rebound, which controls the rate at which the shock extends. The adjustments control the rate at which the shock fluid pass through the ports in the shock. On compression, a smaller port opening will give the impression of stiffer shocks as it takes more pressure and time to flow the fluid. On rebound, the port size acts to control how fast or slow the springs can return the shock from compression. Shock are nothing but dampeners, without them the car would pogo all over the place.

[Purple Venom]

So, on a track, you want the compression to be higher than rebound? Thanks for the explanation btw.

[mike w]

I bought my upper adjustable control arms from them (which are still on the shelf).

both my uppers and lower arms adjustable and side loaded uppers to hold axle straight so no side to side movement - front on uppers is a moly heim joint and was suprised with no noise transfer.

[mmarshall]

So, on a track, you want the compression to be higher than rebound? Thanks for the explanation btw.

Try here for a good guide:
http://www.se-r.net/car_info/suspension_tuning.html

http://www.bimmerhaus.com/tech/shocktuningTN.html

[Purple Venom]

Cool, thanks Mike M.