Meeting to Discuss Runngun

[Matthew 10:16]

Dean has suggested we meet on a Tues. @ 4:30 to discuss R&G. Let's get a thread goin 2 decide when & where. Next Tues. 7/29 in Fairview heights, IL.? Tues. 8/12 before our reg. Mo. meeting say an hour before normal @ Sonic? We can also kick it around this Sat. @ my house or @ CAB during lulls.

[6stringcobra]

Everybody's gonna be at our meeting on 8/12 anyway, so before or after the usual club meeting won't crimp to many folks schedules.

[Dean Lampe]

Tuesday at Casa Guilardo (sp) or Lotta watta creek in Fairview would be great. In return for you coming to the eastside, I will promise to make the trip to the valley for the next club meeting. :D

[Matthew 10:16]

Wish we could talk those Mo. guys into coming over here. It's hard to do they love big Mo. I'm IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say the word Deano

[Purple Venom]

Hey, I wanna go to Lottawatta, Linda would come if we met there.

[Dean Lampe]

They will make it. After all, they have all the meetings in MO! Surely they will go slumming with us over on the eastside just once.;)

[Matthew 10:16]

& don't call me Shirley! :D:eek::D:eek: BTW Nice 2 see ya joining in the fray. It's nice 2 have somebody intelligent 2 talk 2, besides them dumb Mo. hillybillies! That'll get em goin!

[STL Mark]

I'll go - is that this Tuesday @ 4:30 ?
What's a Lottawatta ?
Where is that?
Do they have inside plumbing?

[STL-Scott]

I'm on my 'smart phone' posting this one...so I can't post one of them fancy H/W smilies for this off Topic retort.

We here in the Gateway to the West 'Show Me' State like to be referred to as hicks, or MAsoouriaans...but we kindly reserve the term "Hillbillies", or "hillbilly" (singular) for you kind but somewhat challenged folk that reside East of the River.

Ok, now back to the topic.

I would really like to join you all...but work and picking up kids from camp will keep me from making the mid-week jaunt.

[Matthew 10:16]

I told ya that would get em goin! :D:D:D:D BTW Mark thar's an outhouse out back that's a 2holer w/corn cobs for cleanin up with! Yikes! BTW Scotty is a smart phone sumtn U hicks from the Mo. sticks gotta use cause ya can't figure out how 2 use a normal phone like smart IL. hillybillies use? BTW Mark Yeah he's talkn bout this Tues. @ 4:30 @ Lotawata. Link: http://www.lotawatacreek.com/menu.html BTW If ya want an opinion besides this IL. Hillbilly, ask K&K.

[STL Mark]

Thanks for the link - Yep I'll be there.
Scotty - you can leave your smart phone at home on Tuesday - It won't work on that side of the river anyway.

[Matthew 10:16]

Thanks for the link - Yep I'll be there.Scotty - you can leave your smart phone at home on Tuesday - It won't work on that side of the river anyway.Tues. 7/29 @ 4:30 @ Lotawata Creek Restaurant, Fairview Heights, IL. I-64 & IL.159 near Ramada Inn in the N.E. corner of the intersection of said 2 hiwys. So far it's me, Mark, & Deano. Who else is in? I'll call the Rest. Mon. to see if I can reserve the side room 4 us.

[Purple Venom]

I'll come, but really, don't expect a lot of input. I have NO idea what to expect as I haven't been to RNG or LCS. Anyone care to put out some discussion topics to start with? Is our meeting still at 7 that night?

[Matthew 10:16]

Dean wants to meet @ 4:30. Dean can u get an Agenda of topics to discuss ready before Tues. & post it for Tim & others?

[STL Mark]

First- what do we need to do to succeed this year without going broke.
Second - what we do for 2009 to help them to succeed - and not go broke.

Honestly - I'm still floored by Dean's comment yesterday that they use their own money, loose $1000's and Gateway is still in charge.

Growth (like we are all excited about) demands fiscal stability. We know now that we all have a lot to learn about RNG - but we also know that if we want to usher this event to the next level - we'll have to figure out how to more than break even. Like I said before - this is the true power of our group. We're all smart enough to help them, and insure that this event (in whatever form it takes) continues.

[STL-Scott]

Oh he-- I drove right by there on Wednesaday...that isn't out in the boonies. I'm working on that silly looking Conference Center next to the Hilton Garden Inn at N.W.C. of I-64 and Green Mount Road. That's my kinda of Hillybilly place.

I'm not sure I will be much help or influence, but let me see if Michelle can get the kiddo Tuesday night and I will try to make it...I'll just make a "site visit" to my project before hand and make my client happy....and get him to pay for the gas.

[Matthew 10:16]

makes the world go round. Yikes, I don't think any of us want to lose money do we? Is Gateway making money on Runngun or can they be believed if they said no?

[STL-Scott]

Does Gateway want a cut of our take on the car show at RNG?

[Matthew 10:16]

Mark: Can U send a group email notice 2 club members re: Tues. night's meeting due 2 the short notice? Include the link 4 the Rest., if ya want.

[STL Mark]

Done

See you tomorrow Birthday Boy.

[M164285]

I will not be able to attend the meeting on Tuesday due to my work schedule. Maybe we can discuss some of the topics at Dave's or CAB tomorrow.

Clyde

[Dean Lampe]

What if we change the time to a little later?

[Matthew 10:16]

We will reply as a group then bout the time of the Tues. meeting.

[Matthew 10:16]

What if we change the time to a little later?What time should we meet @ Lotawata this Tues. for the R&G meeting? Weigh in guys. Let's try 2 arrive @ consensus opinion here.

[STL Mark]

I thought it was 4:340.

Mark

[Matthew 10:16]

That is 4 mins later Geezer!!!!! EDIT: Dean originally said 4:30 now he says we can do it later if everyone wants to. I think he was tryn 2 be accommodating cause U Mo. guys agreed 2 meet w/him in Fairview.

[Dean Lampe]

I like the 4:30 idea but I think it is important for Clyde to be there so I thought I would see if a different time would work for him. If he is out no matter what time then lets do it at 4:30.

[6stringcobra]

I'm in for 4:30p.

[M164285]

I am sorry but Tuesday is totally out for me. A close friend's mother passed away and we will be at the funeral home on Tuesday evening. I will be out of town starting on Wednesday and lasting for a week and a half. I will have my cell phone and laptop on my trip so please feel free to contact me.

I'm sure what ever you guys come up with will work out fine and I will support what ever the group settles on.

My thoughts are:

We have already published our flier which everyone had an opportunity to critique prior to distribution. The flier stated no trophies and did not list a swap meet.

This is the "first annual" car show and we are facing many unkowns such as participant attendance, GCC membership support and weather. Any one of these can ruin the success of the show and result in a financial disaster. ( I know this to be a fact as the Easter show this year was a bust due to the weather. We put a lot of time and money into the event and ended up with nothing to show for it.)

Our treasury is still in the infant stages and we can not afford major losses.

Trophies are always nice but there are issues that need to be resolved. I am not sure what type of vehicles we will attract or how many. If there are trophies then classes must be determined, number of trophies per class, how will the event be judged (GCC judging or participant judging).

What about insurance? Who is covering our event and are our officers liable?

We need volunteers to cover the gate, cover registration, judging (if trophies), handle the swap meet (if included) and clean up. I'm sure Gateway expects the parking lot to be as clean when we leave as when we got there.

My thoughts are based on the KISS philosophy. Let's host the show and shine and see how it is received. If everyone thinks that $15.00 is too much then let's go down to $10.00. A dash plaque, an opportunity to see kit car drag racing and an opportunity to meet with kit car and accessory vendors - sounds like a good deal to me.

Clyde

[Matthew 10:16]

When U incorporate one of the primary goals of doing so is to INSULATE the officers, directors & shareholders of the corporation from personal liability for the acts of the corporation. Furthermore I can assist the Club in drafting a waiver of liability form to be signed by all attendees of the car show as a further means of protecting "us" from liability. BUT, that being said, nonetheless, insurance is still a necessity unfortunately. With all of those things in place, we would be hard pressed to do more than that. Hopefully that is enough. BUT again U never know in today's litigious society!

[Matthew 10:16]

I'm in for 4:30p.Clyde can't be there regardless of the time so 4:30 it is for sure.

[GuardsmanBlue]

I am sorry but Tuesday is totally out for me. A close friend's mother passed away and we will be at the funeral home on Tuesday evening. I will be out of town starting on Wednesday and lasting for a week and a half. I will have my cell phone and laptop on my trip so please feel free to contact me.

I'm sure what ever you guys come up with will work out fine and I will support what ever the group settles on.

My thoughts are:

We have already published our flier which everyone had an opportunity to critique prior to distribution. The flier stated no trophies and did not list a swap meet.

This is the "first annual" car show and we are facing many unkowns such as participant attendance, GCC membership support and weather. Any one of these can ruin the success of the show and result in a financial disaster. ( I know this to be a fact as the Easter show this year was a bust due to the weather. We put a lot of time and money into the event and ended up with nothing to show for it.)

Our treasury is still in the infant stages and we can not afford major losses.

Trophies are always nice but there are issues that need to be resolved. I am not sure what type of vehicles we will attract or how many. If there are trophies then classes must be determined, number of trophies per class, how will the event be judged (GCC judging or participant judging).

What about insurance? Who is covering our event and are our officers liable?

We need volunteers to cover the gate, cover registration, judging (if trophies), handle the swap meet (if included) and clean up. I'm sure Gateway expects the parking lot to be as clean when we leave as when we got there.

My thoughts are based on the KISS philosophy. Let's host the show and shine and see how it is received. If everyone thinks that $15.00 is too much then let's go down to $10.00. A dash plaque, an opportunity to see kit car drag racing and an opportunity to meet with kit car and accessory vendors - sounds like a good deal to me.

Clyde

I agree with the KISS philosophy. There will be people that are upset about the lack of trophies, but we received complaints at the Easter Show this year even though we had trophies. I think the guy was upset that we didn't have a class for his El Camino. You can't please everyone. I think we need to start with a simple show, see how it goes and build off of that in the years to come. All of the great shows started small and grew over time. We need to focus on having everything run smoothly. Once we have the core car show down we can start adding trophies, swap meets, 50/50, giveaways, etc and make this the show that everyone wants it to be.

[Purple Venom]

I think the best thing to do is to "interview" the participants and see what they would like to see the following year. Maybe even do some of that Sunday at Fastlane.

[Matthew 10:16]

Good idea. Solicit constructive criticism.

[STL-Scott]

I was reminded that I am attending a retirement party with my wife tomorrow at the MAC from 5-7 PM.

Count me out for the meeting.

I will be a helper bee for this years show, so just let me know when, where and what you all need me to do.

Scotty

[Matthew 10:16]

Besides a date w/ur wife is better than us any ole day.

[PaulProe]

Is 4:30 at Lottawatta Creek still correct?

I plan to attend

Paul Proefrock

[Matthew 10:16]

Is 4:30 at Lottawatta Creek still correct?I plan to attendPaul ProefrockC U thar Stink Bomb!

[Purple Venom]

I will not be there, catching up with work.

[Matthew 10:16]

Members in attendance: Dean Lampe, Paul Proefrock, Mark Earls, Mike Wooley from McLeansboro, IL., me David Virgin, Chuck Grbich, & Kerry & Kathy. Great discussion! Respectful exchange of ideas. Expect to hear more from Mark later. EDIT BTW I sat across the table tonight from Mike Wooley tonight. Great Guy! He drove his "British Racing Green" Cobra to the meeting from McLeansboro, IL. He was asking how to keep rain water out of the floor area of his car. I told him to get in touch w/TommyB Kaiser.